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Post by thegoat on Nov 24, 2009 15:20:00 GMT -6
I am hoping Wilson is ok.
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Post by SMC-22 on Nov 24, 2009 15:32:54 GMT -6
Kubiak will tell us in a couple of minutes
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Post by hydroshock on Nov 25, 2009 18:27:18 GMT -6
Wilson is out for the season
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Post by S.Ringrose on Nov 29, 2009 17:14:06 GMT -6
Big concern is whether Matt Schaub is really our QB of the future. Just saying.
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Post by shoguns on Nov 29, 2009 23:28:05 GMT -6
Big concern is whether Matt Schaub is really our QB of the future. Just saying. id be more concerned about Kubiak being the coach of the future. Schaub has proved to be a good QB and has the potential to bring us where we need to be. Kubiak is a good coach, but doesnt seem to be a good head coach. just my $0.02
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Post by thegoat on Nov 30, 2009 8:44:22 GMT -6
neither Matt Schaub or Gary Kubiak is singlehandedly responsible for this season. There is a handful of people who made a last minute mistake that cost us wins. Matt has done his part many times to win and someone else screwed the pouch, Gary has put the team in a position to win several times just to watch someone fail at their assignment. Matt has had a couple bad games, and Kubiak has made a few bad calls, but no more than any other coach or QB. The difference is as is typical in our society, people will put all the blame for something they dont like on one person, whoever is at the top or gets the most facetime. Matt is top 5 in yards and TDs, and its not like hes leading the league in turnovers or anything. Matt has not been the problem this year. One bad game doesnt mean you should write him off as the future QB of the team. The problem is these young players just dont step up when its needed most, they dont have a "IM sick of losing lets go win" attitude, and I dare said they get plain out scared in a tough situation. I dont think any matter of coach or QB swapout is going to change that. They just need to grow up and want to win.
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Post by hydroshock on Nov 30, 2009 10:03:32 GMT -6
I personally think its ok to question both Schaub and Kubiak at this point. Not that I want to get rid of either one, because that will mean another rebuild and will set us back several more years imo, but I don't think we can honestly say either is above scrutiny right now.
It's not that I don't think Schaub can be a great QB and get us over the hump. He's obviously the best we've had so far and qualifies as one of the better passers in the league, and on a good day he can really light it up, but does he possess that killer instinct to raise his level of play even higher and carry a team on his shoulders like other elite QBs? I don't know. He certainly didn't show it yesterday and historically he hasn't done it when it counts the most. Again, I'm not calling for his replacement but I can't sit here and honestly say he's "the one" either.....I mean, what would happen in a playoff game, or god forbid a championship game??
As for Kubiak, I can't blame him for yesterday's loss because it wasn't anything he did that cost us the game (like Belichik) and he doesn't put on pads, but is he doing enough?? I don't know. Why would the team continue to only play strong for half a game and make the same repetitive mistakes? Great coaches can keep their teams focused and motivated for a full 4 quarters and ours doesn't. Again, I can't sit here and hang the loss on him but he's the head man in charge, and at some point it all comes back to him in the end....fair or not.
I don't know, these are tough times. The only thing I'm sure of right now is that I'm glad Diva Rob didn't accept the deal he was offered. If there's any one player that can no longer point fingers at the rest of the team or the organization its him.
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Post by number34 on Nov 30, 2009 12:31:27 GMT -6
Schaub is a great QB. With a little more seasoning he could be an elite QB like Manning. Only time will tell. Right now he is still better than most QBs, on his worst day, so I think we should give him another year or two.
Kubes is a different story. He is an average coach IMO. I thought he would be a great coach but he seems to lack whatever it takes to keep his team fired up and prepared. I'm not calling for his head yet but if he doesn't take this team to the next level soon, I will be calling for his resignation when his contract expires.
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Post by SMC-22 on Dec 3, 2009 13:39:10 GMT -6
I don't think 8-8 will cut it.I think that a third straight 8-8 record means he's gone.For us to have finished there after starting 5-3 is unacceptable.
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Post by thegoat on Dec 3, 2009 13:40:06 GMT -6
if they win this weekend, I dont think they will fnish 8-8. If they lose a 4th in a row, I dunno I guess I will just slit my wrists.
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Post by SMC-22 on Dec 3, 2009 13:43:19 GMT -6
yes
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Post by hydroshock on Dec 3, 2009 17:36:13 GMT -6
I agree, 8-8 would be an insult.
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Post by HWood82 on Dec 5, 2009 6:35:21 GMT -6
I think this all boils down to having a winning culture. If it's not something you're used to then it's difficult to grasp. Like it or not we are saddled with Shaub and have Kubes at least through next season when his contract is up. I think Shaub is good for us and can be the answer (he can be great - not elite, but great) but until we have the "winning attitude" we are destined to be average. The good news is that we know that we are capable of winning now, we just have to bring it to fruition in tight games. Until we BELIEVE that we can win the games that no one expects us to or games that come down to the wire, then we won't be celebrating making the playoffs. We have a solid team now, all the pieces are in place so I don't think we are that far off. There is no one that I think shouldn't be on this team (well maybe Diva Rob - but as a #2 corner I'd be okay with him staying). Long and short? We have a good team with a chance to do great things but the window won't be open forever! A Power RB and cover CB in the 2010 draft wouldn't hurt either. JMHO
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Post by hydroshock on Dec 15, 2009 12:53:08 GMT -6
I saw a much improved effort from the team this week but I still have a few concerns....
First, I continue to see some play calling on 3rd and short (between 1-3 yards) that I consider questionable. It seems like every time we're in that situation we try to spread the field and hit on a quick slant our out pass. In the past that may have worked but teams are wise to it now, and so far in this half of the season the result has usually been a 3 and out, or even worse a pick 6.
I know the coaches aren't very confident in our short yardage run game but damn, if I know the pass is coming sitting on my couch then there's no doubt the opposing defense does too. Why not try to line up and pound out the 1st down at least half the time?? Kubs keeps talking about staying committed to the run but then we don't even try in those situations. I still think it would be the perfect opportunity to run Leach right up the gut. If you don't get it at least you might pick up half the yardage and put yourself in position to go for it on 4th down.
Second, for some reason we're still coming out flat offensively in the second half. Obviously we can't be perfect all the time but for the last few weeks it seems like our first couple of possessions after the half are really hurting us.....too many 3 and outs. This week the defense came back out fired up and it was the difference in the game. Someone on the offensive side needs to do a better job keeping the guys fired up or something.
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Post by thegoat on Dec 15, 2009 14:13:02 GMT -6
I think our offensive line just cant be counted on for short yardage running when you need it on 3rd down.
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Post by number34 on Dec 15, 2009 15:14:38 GMT -6
...and please don't let Brown throw the ball ever. Its crazy that our run game fell off so much from last year. I think next season we need to beef up the line and get a legit RB. We do that and I think we will be good to go.
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Post by thegoat on Dec 15, 2009 17:05:29 GMT -6
Im still not convinced that Slaton isnt talented enough to be the guy. My man problem with him was the fumbling, and thats mental and he can get over that. When he got the ball in space, he was still explosive and quick, I still think the woes lie with the blocking. It is hard to understand why it fell off so far from last year. I cant blame the scheme when it was working last year. I gotta point at the personnel.
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Post by amazingandre on Dec 15, 2009 19:21:49 GMT -6
I agree goat.....I think SS can still b our feature back.
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Post by headsplint on Dec 15, 2009 20:47:38 GMT -6
Im still not convinced that Slaton isnt talented enough to be the guy. My man problem with him was the fumbling, and thats mental and he can get over that. When he got the ball in space, he was still explosive and quick, I still think the woes lie with the blocking. It is hard to understand why it fell off so far from last year. I cant blame the scheme when it was working last year. I gotta point at the personnel. No doubt Slaton is explosive and should stay, the only thing is we need a big back to take the load off of him. he can't carry that ball that much and expect to have great results.
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Post by thegoat on Dec 15, 2009 21:12:01 GMT -6
ya Foster may or may not be able to fill that role. Its all for not though until they get that offensive line fixed.
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