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Post by yosarian on Dec 7, 2008 23:49:21 GMT -6
Well, i think things are going to get better. We are about at the bottom now so no way but up from here.
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Post by thegoat on Dec 8, 2008 7:04:22 GMT -6
ya Im sure having the entire Clinton administration back will fix things. /sarcasm
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Post by headsplint on Dec 8, 2008 14:27:48 GMT -6
ya Im sure having the entire Clinton administration back will fix things. /sarcasm Dude....IMO Bill was the best President in recent memory. So what he got caught with Monica that's just it, he got caught. The way he handled his foreign policy changed alot for America. Of course Bush has since ruined that, and hopefully America has learned it's lesson on voting morons in office.
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Post by thegoat on Dec 10, 2008 6:59:48 GMT -6
yes not going after Bin Laden when you had the opportunities was excellent foreign policy. Having the clinton administration back is bad for our taxes, bad for the military, and bad for govt spending. Obama's whole campaign of 'change' was a farce, its the same old faces. If you guys are ok with socialism thats your choice, but I for one am sick of giving away my hard earned cash to ppl who think its my responsibility to pay for someone else mistakes.
I could care less about Bill's personal life, what I do care about is how much of my money is going to Shaneqa and her 9 kids. Obama promised us a real change in how govt is run, so far I dont see that happening.
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Post by headsplint on Dec 10, 2008 11:41:45 GMT -6
yes not going after Bin Laden when you had the opportunities was excellent foreign policy. Having the clinton administration back is bad for our taxes, bad for the military, and bad for govt spending. Obama's whole campaign of 'change' was a farce, its the same old faces. If you guys are ok with socialism thats your choice, but I for one am sick of giving away my hard earned cash to ppl who think its my responsibility to pay for someone else mistakes. I could care less about Bill's personal life, what I do care about is how much of my money is going to Shaneqa and her 9 kids. Obama promised us a real change in how govt is run, so far I dont see that happening. Well, I hope you're black, if not that sounds like a very stereotypical statement leaning on the verge of racism. And taking things to the extreme by saying we are headed to a socialist government isn't discussing the issue, it's going so far to one side that you've lost any sense of argument and you are just relying on what others have said without making your own choices. So it's pointless for me to try and explain to you anything in regards to Obama. But so goes the discussion of politics. As far as his campaign of change, the majority of the spots being filled look nothing like the past 8 years so tell me again how it's not change? Or do you want him to fill huis cabinet with people who have never dealt with anything in the past? And i'll say this to everyone who doesn't seem capable of rationale.... Turn off Bill O Reilly for 5 seconds and draw your own conclusions. Stop being a puppet. That hand shoved up the asses of the closed minded forcing you to speak has got to make you uncomfortable after a while.
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Post by thegoat on Dec 10, 2008 16:10:11 GMT -6
on second thought this is too argumentative, Im just gonna let it go.
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Post by headsplint on Dec 10, 2008 19:09:39 GMT -6
on second thought this is too argumentative, Im just gonna let it go. Like I said so goes the discussion of politics. I wasn't necessarily calling you a puppet, I just threw that out as a generalization, but you have to agree most "ordinary" people who attempt to discuss something like this generally are not informed and just go off of what they hear someone on a political talk show tells them. I just hear the same thing from everyone who voted republican...Obabma is already back stepping on everything he said, we are going to get raped in taxes......and it hasn't happened yet. Regardless I originally meant this thread as congratulatory, and in hindisght should not have started it, considering this is a football forum and this particular election is more controversial than any we have seen so the opinions are stronger than normal. I think it's best I just lock it, and move on.
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Post by hydroshock on Dec 13, 2008 18:38:10 GMT -6
And i'll say this to everyone who doesn't seem capable of rationale.... Turn off Bill O Reilly for 5 seconds and draw your own conclusions. Stop being a puppet. That hand shoved up the asses of the closed minded forcing you to speak has got to make you uncomfortable after a while. QFT...have some karma
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Post by SMC-22 on Dec 13, 2008 23:51:54 GMT -6
yes not going after Bin Laden when you had the opportunities was excellent foreign policy. Having the clinton administration back is bad for our taxes, bad for the military, and bad for govt spending. Obama's whole campaign of 'change' was a farce, its the same old faces. If you guys are ok with socialism thats your choice, but I for one am sick of giving away my hard earned cash to ppl who think its my responsibility to pay for someone else mistakes. I could care less about Bill's personal life, what I do care about is how much of my money is going to Shaneqa and her 9 kids. Obama promised us a real change in how govt is run, so far I dont see that happening. wow that is a mouthfull
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